Tuesday Mar 18, 2025

Episode 28: Working with your ERO evaluation partner

The new process for ERO reviews means tumuaki work more closely with their ERO evaluation partner over the three-year cycle. In this episode, we talk about getting the most out of that relationship, and the process when ERO finds something that’s not going so well in a school.

 

My guests are:

  • Shane Morrow, Manager Review and Improvement Services, ERO
  • Sharee Hemingway, Director Ākonga Māori, ERO
  • Stephen Lethbridge, principal of Point Chevalier School Rangi-mata-rau
  • Nick Leith, tumuaki of Te Raekura Redcliffs School.

 

This podcast was produced for the Ministry of Education as part of Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals.

 

You can learn more about this topic by accessing Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals e-learning modules on the Education LMS: https://training.education.govt.nz

 

Show notes

Episode themes:

  • Board assurance statements – useful for tumuaki to use it as a living document for ongoing internal audit. Ensuring you’re using data.
  • Important to build an effective relationship with your evaluation partner and engaging with them well – good idea to make their email address a VIP contact so their emails come to the top of your list each time.
  • Nick re: evaluation partner/tumuaki relationship: “One thing I've learned about this job is there are an absolute million plates spinning and quite a few of them are wobbling. And I guess if you can turn your attention to some of those wobbles for a period of time, you can get back to the things that are spinning great. But that's a supportive process rather than one that's only there for three days to catch the plates as they fall.”
  • Preparation for an ERO visit is important.
  • Helping staff manage their nerves when ERO is on site – it’s important to talk them through the process so they know what to expect.
  • What happens if an evaluation partner finds something concerning in a school.
  • How new tumuaki can understand where their new kura is in an ERO review cycle.
  • How to find who your evaluation partner is.

 

Additional information

ERO website www.ero.govt.nz 

School Improvement Framework (SIF) https://ero.govt.nz/how-ero-reviews/how-ero-reviews-schoolskura-english-medium/te-ara-huarau-the-new-approach-to-evaluation/school-improvement-framework

Board assurance statement and self-audit checklists https://ero.govt.nz/how-ero-reviews/how-ero-reviews-schoolskura-english-medium/Te-Ara-Huarau/The-Board-Assurance-Statement-and-Self-Audit-Checklists

 

Questions

00:45 [Stephen] What do you do to prepare for an ERO visit?

 

1:17 [Stephen and Shane] Can you talk me through what that board assurance statement covers?

 

5:07 [Nick] You mentioned that you used your first review as a way of getting to know your kura and the way everything works. How will you prepare next time?

 

7:55 [Shane and Sharee] Would you add anything to the preparation for an ERO visit?

 

9:45 [Stephen and Nick] How do you manage staff nerves about having ERO in the school?

 

13:41 [Shane] What happens if the evaluation partner finds that there's something not quite going so well in a school? How does that process work?

 

16:35 [Sharee] How does it work in the rumaki bilingual space?

 

18:52 [Shane] Does ERO help set up support where it's needed or is it a referral process to the Ministry?

 

20:16 [Shane and Sharee] When a new tumuaki steps in the building, how can they get their head around where a school is in that review cycle or where they are in the improvement journey?

 

22:11[Shane and Sharee] How can they find out who their evaluation partner is?

 

22:34 [All] What’s your advice to a new tumuaki approaching an ERO review?

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